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  how important was the hope of the paradise to you? and what do you hope in now?

  by Curtains in

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  many become and remain witnesses because of the hope of living in a paradise earth.

  for those who have left how did you cope with the loss of this hope?

  or do you still have this hope?.

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  It wasnt that important to me. It was just going to happen. I would either die at Armageddon or live in a paradise on earth.

  As a child I quite liked the idea of friendly animals, but not spending more time with my father or more meetings that i envisioned taking place daily and everything very routine. (My days are not particularly planned)

  As I got into my teens I had more questions about how it would actually work. Would we be naked? Adam had no clothes, no house, no car, nothing so why would we? But what peace. No worries. I imagined him waking up with the knowledge that he didn't have a care in the world and he could just lay there listening to the wind and the birds.

  I still have the hope of a better life and if I'm wrong at least I died with hope.
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  A Concerned Elder Speaks

  by Franklin Massey in

  1. jw
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  a lot of talk has centered around information dispensed at the recent km schools.

  many brothers feel there is a "tightening up" taking place.

  i had a recent experience that you may find interesting.. after the meeting i was working with our cobe on some congregation tasks when out of nowhere he said, "have you looked up any extra information about higher education since the km school?

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  Giordano

  I don't feel any need to join a religion to have a love for God and I never felt I was dedicated to the organization I was never a company man so to speak.
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  Does anyone dream about JWN?

  by brotherdan in

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  yeah...i know that this is a minimus type question....but.

  i spend way to much time on this site.

  i dream about it all the time.

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  Yes.
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  A Concerned Elder Speaks

  by Franklin Massey in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a lot of talk has centered around information dispensed at the recent km schools.

  many brothers feel there is a "tightening up" taking place.

  i had a recent experience that you may find interesting.. after the meeting i was working with our cobe on some congregation tasks when out of nowhere he said, "have you looked up any extra information about higher education since the km school?

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  Franklin Massey,

  "Lets say that they love 99% of what the religion has to offer, but just don't know of the end is really so near. Should they throw the baby out with the bath water"

  Yes there are people I am in contact with who feel somewhat similar.

  Franklin. When you dedicated to your life to God was there a condition attached?

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  A Concerned Elder Speaks

  by Franklin Massey in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a lot of talk has centered around information dispensed at the recent km schools.

  many brothers feel there is a "tightening up" taking place.

  i had a recent experience that you may find interesting.. after the meeting i was working with our cobe on some congregation tasks when out of nowhere he said, "have you looked up any extra information about higher education since the km school?

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  Franklin Massey

  I'm not hung up on anything. I have always done what I chose to do, with the information I had at hand. Unfortunately sometimes the person giving me the info although claiming to be something, were not what they claimed to be. Hence I was mislead.

  I personally dont believe the end of this system is close. My end is probably alot closer. I am never quick, ask my wife. I and you must make judgements every day concerning people. The judgements that Elders make concerning peoples lives often have very detrimental effects. My opinion is that as a group of JW's they share a community guilt for it.

  In 1969 the district overseer gave his final talk at the circuit assembly and asked if you think you will take that carpet that you are working so hard for thru Armageddon, or that new car. That is the thinking I was brought up with as we lived in the final part of the last days. If a JW no longer believes he is living in the final part he should leave in my opinion. I did.

  My judgements arent so bad the person I mentioned hurt some in the congregation badly with his judicial nonsense. Some years later he was disfellowshipped for similar reasons to the ones he had been so hard on. (If he had been so hard on my daughter it would have been a different matter)

  Thank you for your reply and in the future I will try to be more clear.

  Wobble,

  I appreciate your comments
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  A Concerned Elder Speaks

  by Franklin Massey in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a lot of talk has centered around information dispensed at the recent km schools.

  many brothers feel there is a "tightening up" taking place.

  i had a recent experience that you may find interesting.. after the meeting i was working with our cobe on some congregation tasks when out of nowhere he said, "have you looked up any extra information about higher education since the km school?

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  thetrueone,

  Maybe I misread your post.

  I am not JW. I was.

  Although this is the case I agree with the GB on Elders should not serve whilst putting their kids into College or University. I think it would seem to show a lack of faith in the end being close and nobody has to serve as an Elder. God could use stones.

  My kids are in University. One is studying for a Phd in Theology the other is studying with the hopes of becoming a medical doctor. I have nothing against further education. I'm all for it.

  When I was a JW I left school as soon as I was able against the advice of my teachers I even had one of the worst kids in the school walk home with me leaving his car in the school car park trying to talk me out of it. I witnessed to all of them in word and deed. Whether the witness was a good one I can't say but I wasn't a hypocrite.

  In the congregation at the time was an Elder who was raised in the truth and had gone to University and had a very well paid job I thought he was a hypocrite. That's my opinion.

  I also think there is a wider question of as a christian how much one trusts God to provide and where one draws the line with needs and wants, not that it matters.

  If anyone doesnt understand my posts or why I post things don't worry my wife usually doesnt understand me either and she has known me 30years.
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  A Concerned Elder Speaks

  by Franklin Massey in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a lot of talk has centered around information dispensed at the recent km schools.

  many brothers feel there is a "tightening up" taking place.

  i had a recent experience that you may find interesting.. after the meeting i was working with our cobe on some congregation tasks when out of nowhere he said, "have you looked up any extra information about higher education since the km school?

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  Baltar447

  JW's identify 1914 as the return of Christ the last days a generation etc. When one dedicates their life to God based on this knowledge they realise the time is reduced. Like the Titanic in it's moments before it sank beneath the waves how many passengers were wondering about college and how many were wondering about God?

  Of course if you dont believe the end is upon us college and university is fine.

  2Peter 3: 14 Hence, beloved ones, since YOU are awaiting these things, do YOUR utmost to be found finally by him spotless and unblemished and in peace
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  A Concerned Elder Speaks

  by Franklin Massey in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a lot of talk has centered around information dispensed at the recent km schools.

  many brothers feel there is a "tightening up" taking place.

  i had a recent experience that you may find interesting.. after the meeting i was working with our cobe on some congregation tasks when out of nowhere he said, "have you looked up any extra information about higher education since the km school?

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  The Finger

  "One cannot forgo taking care of their family's needs as is instructed in the scriptures:"

  I think the argument is whether you rely on Jehovah or not.

  I dont think you need to examine my motive do you?
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  A Concerned Elder Speaks

  by Franklin Massey in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a lot of talk has centered around information dispensed at the recent km schools.

  many brothers feel there is a "tightening up" taking place.

  i had a recent experience that you may find interesting.. after the meeting i was working with our cobe on some congregation tasks when out of nowhere he said, "have you looked up any extra information about higher education since the km school?

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  miseryloveselders.

  If in 1969 you were baptised as a Witness what did you accept? If you accepted the belief then you should have acted in a way that showed that. Now if you are and a JW and still accept it then education takes a back seat to the christian responsiblies as put forth by the GB. Unless you can be a full time pioneer and do further education you should either leave the JW or not go for further education.
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  Do You Hate The Jehovah's Witness Religion?

  by minimus in

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  i see some here who seem to despise the religion.

  others seem to feel that witnesses are wacky but they don't hate them.. do you hate this religion?.

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  No.